Here is the post: KDIGO CKD-MBD Updated Guideline: The More We Know, The Less We Know
This is not the first time wrote about the KDIGO CKD-MBD guidelines. I wrote about them for Kidney News. I thought it was pretty good.
musings of a salt whisperer
Here is the post: KDIGO CKD-MBD Updated Guideline: The More We Know, The Less We Know
This is not the first time wrote about the KDIGO CKD-MBD guidelines. I wrote about them for Kidney News. I thought it was pretty good.
This is a new fellow level lecture, i.e. very motivated but shallow knowledge. It could be adapted for residents.
This one is due for an upgrade. Note that a lot of the slides are hidden. As is, it is over an hour.
I was invited back to the Curbsiders for a second podcast.
We did an hour and a half on hyponatremia. Matthew Watto took what was a pretty rough interview and turned it into podcast gold. Take a listen:
The whole process was fun. Team Curbsider is a great gang and they are doing a bang up job bringing #FOAMed and Podcasts to internal medicine.
The Curbsiders have a really solid website with links to all of the references we talked about and a great index of the podcast. Take a look.
I am going to Mount Everest Basecamp with the Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation (please donate). They have a program called Moving Mountains for Multiple Myeloma. These are even driven fund raisers. They put together a team of patients, doctors, patient caregivers, and people climbing in memorial for someone they lost to multiple myeloma.
The trek to Everest basecamp starts at 4,500 feet in Kathmandu and ends at 18,192 in Everest Basecamp. The trek isn’t until next march but this past week-end the trekking team got together to meet and do some high altitude climbing around Colorado. We went to the top of Mt Democrat at 14,178 feet. This is the highest I have ever hiked.
One of the goals was to treat this Colorado trip as a shakedown trip. Try out all of the gear we will actually use on the trek to make sure it works. One of the pieces that needed to be tried out was acetazolamide, or Diamox, to prevent acute mountain sickness. The team has a few myeloma doctors and a plastic surgeon, but I am the only nephrologist. One of the participants singled me out and asked an interesting question. This trekker is on spironolactone for hypertension, and wanted to know if it was safe to combine spironolactone with acetazolamide. This made the hair on my neck stand up. Both drugs cause metabolic acidosis so that doesn’t seem like a good thing. Both drugs have an opposite effect on renal potassium handling, acetazolamide causes potassium wasting, spironolactone causes potassium retention. And lastly, one of the down sides of a diuretic during mountain trekking is preventing hypovolemia, as both insensible and sensible water losses are increased with activity and getting, purifying, and carrying enough water is a constant concern on these trips. All of this made me feel that spironolactone and aldactone were a bad combination.
I asked Twitter for their thoughts and as usual they did not disappoint:
Everest, Spironolactone, and Acetazolamide
The article the Edgar found was particularly interesting.
The article is worth a read. I made a visual abstract. It seems that spironolactone does not provide protection and may make people more susceptible to mild, acute mountain sickness.
He is a 57 year old man. Husband. Father. A bit over weight, nothing too extreme. He likes to play basketball. He drinks bourbon, an occasional scotch; he rarely over indulges. The more I learn about him, the more familiar he is. He looks like any one of my friends. He only found his way to my office after his family practice doctor got frustrated trying to control his blood pressure. Maybe it’s sleep apnea or too much salt in the diet. Sometimes I find a rare salt-retaining hormone abnormality.
On the first visit I did a routine urinalysis. It showed a hint of protein. When he came back, delighted with his improved blood pressures, I delved a little deeper and discovered the hint of protein was a lot more significant, with a strange ratio of albumin to protein. This is the pattern we see in myeloma. All of a sudden, the hemoglobin that looked like routine anemia yesterday is now the car crash I can’t turn away from. The arthritis he mentioned transforms in my mind into myeloma bone pain.
I tell him what I’m thinking and the casual, good natured clinical encounters become heavier. I order the myeloma tests I learned about in medical school, the PEP brothers, SPEP and UPEP. I add on the plasma free light chains that the myeloma specialists perseverate on.
A few days later I see the electronics flag indicating unviewed lab results.
Like Schrödinger’s cat in the box, at that moment he has myeloma and doesn’t have myeloma.
Time for the ambiguity to end. Time to open up the box and look inside…
This bit of medical fiction was me trying to express why I’m raising money for multiple myeloma.
I am raising money for the Multiple Myeloma Foundation as part of their Moving Mountains for Myeloma program. The peak of this endeavor will be a trip to Mount Everest Basecamp. My role is to bring awareness of myeloma, I hope this helps give an impression of one small aspect of this devastating but increasingly treatable disease. Help myeloma research.
In between rounds of getting crushed by my son in Mario Cart 8, I came across this tweet…
That time when @hotdogsladies tried to explain @kidney_boy ‘s Twitter bio to @danbenjamin 🙂 https://t.co/WWaETu7fQ1— Miloš Miljković (@miljko) June 19, 2017
Merlin Mann, if you are not aware, is a staple of podcasts and inventor of In Box Zero. In June sixth’s Back to Work, Merlin recounts coming across my twitter bio and how it stuck with him as something interesting. I love how he can’t come up with my Twitter handle or the exact quote, but he did get the word Nephrologist and totally understood the meaning of the bio, and he got why I think it is important.
My twitter bio:
Saying the product of the kidneys is urine is like saying the product of a factory is pollution. Urine is a by-product. The product is homeostasis.
This is not an original thought but me just reprocessing Homer Smith’s masterpiece for Generation Twitter:
The lungs serve to maintain the composition of the extra-cellular fluid with respect to oxygen and carbon dioxide, and with this their duty ends. The responsibility for maintaining the composition of this fluid in respect to other constituents devolves on the kidneys. It is no exaggeration to say that the composition of the body fluids is determined not by what the mouth takes in but what the kidneys keep: they are the master chemists of our internal environment. Which, so to speak, they manufacture in reverse by working it over some fifteen times a day. When among other duties, they excrete the ashes of our body fires, or remove from the blood the infinite variety of foreign substances that are constantly being absorbed from our indiscriminate gastrointestinal tracts, these excretory operations are incidental to the major task of keeping our internal environments in the ideal, balanced state.
Merlin’s voice has been flowing into my ears since I used iTunes to download podcasts to hard drive based iPods (2004?). He has given me hundreds of interesting ideas that have poked at my cerebral cortex for weeks. I am delighted that I have been able to do the same for him, even if it was just once.
On the home page of the CJASN they advertise their excellent podcast
Listen to our @kljohansenmd in a @CJASN podcast discuss her work on frailty among #ESRD patients https://t.co/msuiGHHIC9— UCSF Nephrology (@UCSFNephrology) June 7, 2017
For years one of the fronts that social media advocates battled was the freedom to tweet at meetings. A number of meetings (we are looking at you ATC) were less than welcoming. I suspect many conferences were used to selling access to the meeting to people who did not participate through video tape, audio recordings or other means and they saw the social media coverage as unnecessary competition.
Why let bloggers and social media gadfly provide for free what we can sell.
Conferences are also typically run by people not on social media and who are unfamiliar with the norms of those communities. Organizers paraded excuses of academic purity and protecting authors. The issues are well documented here.
This all bubbled over last week at the American Diabetes Association national meeting in San Diego (#2017ADA). The organizers tried to enforce a no pictures policy:
One take down notice, lead to another, lead to another and suddenly the @AmDiabetesAssn feed was nothing but take down notices:
Hey ADA, why even have a hashtag and twitter presence for #2017ADA ? Information wants to be free. Welcome thanks the modern age!— Swapnil Hiremath, MD (@hswapnil) June 9, 2017
Linda Cann, the association’s senior vice president, was quoted by Liz Neporent, ” The association will be reevaluating the policy after the meeting is over”
I’ve been chair of the sci sessions oversight comm- its the docs who decide policy – till now presenters wanted protection. It will change— Lou Philipson (@lphilipson) June 11, 2017
My practice has a number of nurse practitioners and physician assistants. The partners do quarterly teaching sessions for them. It is some of my favorite teaching. They come to each session with a lot of experience and the sessions are more like guided conversations rather than traditional lectures. I usually try to frame the session with a clinical practice guideline and we just go through it step by step. This time I did autosomal dominant polycystic kidney disease. I couldn’t find a clinical practice guideline, so I just went with the KDIGO Controversies paper and went from there.
Update from Twitter (where else?)
You mentioned in your post there is no CPG in ADPKD. There is a Canadian one recently published:https://t.co/TFBeI0Kw02— Dr. Jordan Weinstein (@drjjw) June 5, 2017
We use these to make sure we cover all aspects of the disease during the session. They really don’t stand alone. They serve primarily as an outline of the conversation.
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Look at this chart from KDIGO ADPKD conference. Looks like there are mistakes. pic.twitter.com/IYJE2vWbaU— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
Specificity should rise with a lack of cysts at higher ages, why is it going own? Thoughts @goKDIGO— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
Cat making it hard to finish my presentation pic.twitter.com/4sMRVjPbwN— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
In casse you always wanted to know what 50 pounds of kidneys looks like https://t.co/qxvVeVsBf8 pic.twitter.com/truZRQxznI— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
Best summary in this review of ADPKD liver involvement is: “huge, silent, and durable”https://t.co/ZXwWJDRaMA— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
The GFR lies to you in ADPKD. See the late MRI image…the GFR is normal.https://t.co/Zk2HCegvpB pic.twitter.com/vwXhUmFjQD— Joel Topf, MD FACP (@kidney_boy) June 2, 2017
The NPs andPAs bought me a cake for winning the Robert Narins Award. So nice.
I went through the PBFluids back catalog to find three posts on the dangers of running marathons. Two on hyponatremia and one on coronary calcium. Enjoy. Hope to see you on the Twitter with hashtag #NephJC on May 23, at 9pm EST, and May 24, at 8pm GMT.